Aren't the means in 'end justifies the means' scenarios, ends-for-themselves?
Since asking this question I realized that some could use the end simply to justify the means. Means that are dubiously moral could be excused so far as PR goes if attached to some noble end such as creating Utopia. Until the Utopia or whatever is actualized any sort of ruthless means could be justified or propped up with reference to the goal that is the end.
An example would be that means or methods A through B are wicked, yet the noble and very important goal/end #5 is of great social importance.
A + B+ C + D = 5 is morally acceptable for those that believe the end justifies the means when it is true
however
If A + B + C + D ≠ 5, or A + B+ C + D does not add up to produce goal/end 5 it is immoral.
I would guess that is an example of consequential from one point of view.
Practically speaking though if one has a fine goal of such importance that it allows all manner of crime or political fascism as means to accomplish then many people enjoying the luxury of superior felony-edge over their fellow human might just make up noble ends to justify their crooked or evil means.
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