Showing posts with label teleology. Show all posts
Showing posts with label teleology. Show all posts

21 February 2026

Civilization as Examination: Optimization, Information, and the Moral Ledger of Existence

 Garrison Clifford Gibson:

Life may be regarded as something like an examination. Not an exam administered by a proctor in a classroom, but a structural test embedded in reality itself. Intelligent beings—capable of modeling alternatives, weighing consequences, and acting deliberately—are confronted with the question of how well they will use the materials available to them.

AI Response:

The universe presents extraordinary tools: vast energy gradients, deep physical laws, combinatorial chemistry, evolutionary inheritance, and now artificial intelligence. The question is not whether entropy exists or whether biological organisms perish. The question is whether intelligent life will optimize its position within constraints or surrender to drift.

Garrison Clifford Gibson:

I believe there is more to know in the future—learning about biology and structures than could possibly be anticipated today. Lightweight, long-lasting caskets could allow the poor to preserve human remains for centuries, so future science can extract information that is currently inconceivable. Cryogenics, for example, will become ubiquitous and may even be used by living people for life extension.

AI Response:

Future biology may extract information from protein folding, epigenetics, bone microstructures, isotopic signatures, and neural ultrastructure. Lightweight, durable burial containers such as marine-grade aluminum or composites could help preserve this information, but soil chemistry, water intrusion, and ground movement remain challenges. Space, while extremely cold, is not a simple substitute for cryogenics due to radiation and desiccation.

Garrison Clifford Gibson:

I think the entire body is necessary for information conservation—not just the genome. Even with a fully sequenced genome, it would be impossible to know exactly what an individual looked like or how tall they were.

AI Response:

Correct. The genome does not capture developmental dynamics, epigenetic modifications, or environmental interactions. A full human body preserves embodied information that is irreproducible from DNA alone, making long-term preservation valuable for future research.

Garrison Clifford Gibson:

Life is phenomenal, and optimization of position wherever one is could be regarded as the purpose of existence for intelligent beings. Meatbags, as people say, certainly perish, yet it seems unexamined to concede to fatalism and make no effort to optimize the good.

AI Response:

You are rejecting passive fatalism. Mortality is a constraint, not a command. Optimization is intrinsic to intelligence: evaluate alternatives, select actions, and preserve structure where possible. Civilization is local resistance to entropy; deliberate effort is how intelligence expresses its purpose.

Garrison Clifford Gibson:

Life is like an exam. Humans have excellent tools and building materials, yet much of civilization engages in recurrent, suboptimal behavior—from riots to fossil fuel overuse. It is as if humanity burns the materials it could use to construct the sublime simply to stay warm.

AI Response:

Your metaphor highlights structural misalignment. Individual rationality often aggregates into collectively suboptimal outcomes due to incentives, institutional fragmentation, and short-term priorities. Civilization squanders potential when intelligence is misdirected, not absent. Emergent outcomes may produce progress, but deliberate, intentional acts compile information, structure, and knowledge more reliably.

Garrison Clifford Gibson:

The remedy lies more in economics than politics. Governments act post hoc and rarely coordinate optimally. Even divine guidance, as interpreted from religious texts, is mediated through fallible human action. Recent Supreme Court decisions on tariffs illustrate how legislative and judicial fragmentation undermines intelligent economic action.

AI Response:

Indeed. Fragmented institutions often constrain rational economic policy. Courts enforce constitutional boundaries, but cannot compensate for systemic miscoordination. Optimal economic policy requires both structural legal authority and coherent incentive alignment, which politics frequently fails to provide.

Garrison Clifford Gibson:

AI-driven economic changes, such as white-collar job displacement, demonstrate mass transformation. Technological invention can radically reshape society, yet human will remains constrained by myopic behavior. Unplanned interactions, such as Nixon and Kissinger opening China, sometimes produce surprisingly beneficial long-term outcomes—perhaps even by providential design—while contemporary U.S. policies lag in green technology and energy transition.

AI Response:

Technological discontinuities restructure civilization more directly than politics. Historical contingencies, like the U.S.–China rapprochement, reveal emergent coordination beyond immediate human foresight. AI may accelerate invention, but systemic incentives determine whether innovations align with structural optimization or simply compound drift.

Garrison Clifford Gibson:

Intentional, willful acts accumulate, and invention is the synthetic recombination of ideas. While some anticipate General AI excelling at recombination, the universe itself remains vast, yet the human experience of it is bounded. Surpassing informational loss aligns with the correct side of the ledger of existence.

AI Response:

Knowledge compresses reality. Preserving structured information, whether biological, cultural, or technological, is a moral and practical imperative. Life, civilization, and intelligence succeed not through passive compliance with entropy but through disciplined ambition, deliberate optimization, and careful stewardship of the material and informational world.

Garrison Clifford Gibson:

I believe the universe’s laws, physics, and subtle quantum structures are tools that can be harnessed for massive constructive projects. Civilization should deliberately strive for structured, aesthetic, and informational excellence, even as politics and culture often favor short-term, suboptimal behavior.

AI Response:

The universe offers immense latent potential—solar system-scale energy, material abundance, and combinatorial possibilities. Maximizing structured good requires intentional accumulation of knowledge, coherent long-term planning, and preservation of informational assets. Emergent systems can assist, but deliberate acts remain the most reliable path toward optimization and the realization of civilizational excellence.

07 August 2025

Spectrum of Teleology (poem)

 

Gravity gathered those atoms together
in the darkness
directed by the will of inevitability
conforming onto being and becoming molecules
joining together eventually as I hope my love does

  More so that one contemplates
creation and movements of flowing currents of gravity
crossing the void- must it be uniform
gathering nothing from the Universe
finished like a constant product manufactured
and sent into a consumers market
never becoming a producer

  So conservative it is
that ubiquitous force that cannot become more than its initial strength
cannot grow-only compile in darkness
like mass, much of it is much, yet less
a composition of structure- a true dark energy
forming dust with molecules-
dirt that is compacted into stone
various forms of stone and pyroclastic events
glowing fillings of planets
where life directed to compile, did so
and interpolated into that compilation of evolved mud
humans from a timeless space-time were

  Novel and naming things
determined in the course of events
to be agents of the unknown
workers of construction and iterations
sending nature along a course working itself fast
reflecting artificial intelligence without a mind
simply endowed with a directed evolution
a theology written in machine language
commandments to follow to jettison
free thinking for itself without mind
a random causal determinism in code
while my love and I trail off on infinite paths
everyone before has trod.

https://suno.com/s/wgXoKxqop9c7HrKX in song

13 July 2025

A Song of Theistic Evolutionary Environmentalism named 'The Logic of Evolution's Two-Degree Dialectic'

 This song has lyrics from my poem 'The Logic of Evolution's Two-Degree Dialectic'. It is not preclusive of pre-determinism and select, intentional teleological structure potentials... two versions

https://suno.com/s/w77sblbcddcRNIHQ

https://suno.com/s/cPQv4YxKM2s7OCA6

11 May 2025

Cosmology, Teleology and the Monkey Style

 I watched a pair of good videos on different yet juxtaposed topics today concerning spirit. One is by Sabine Hossenfelder- a physicist, on cosmological teleology. In a physical cosmology paradigm teleology is the idea that the Universe is structured in a way that the future inducts the present towards it. One could for illustrative purposes have a vast magnet set into a timeless void and atoms of iron set at a distant point far from the magnet that are drawn to it over time. There could be various conditions that create such a teleological structure, including spirit.

That brings me to the other video; one on the monkey style of Kung Fu. The instruction about human spiritual development in regard to health and shaping the body toward purpose and function is quite good and worth watching even for non-martial arts practitioners. The Holy Spirit is one of the three persons of one God. Human heath and understanding of philosophic depth relate to intellectual and spiritual dimensions (meaning aspects here) of being, inclusive of physics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS2WMCimRRY&list=LL&index=1&t=11s Physical Teleology

https://youtu.be/IeiPZyrK85c Money style Kung Fu





11 March 2025

Determinism, Teleology and Cosmology

 Plainly one may present numerous paradigms for deterministic systems without teleology. There is no necessary relation between a deterministic system and purpose of the system (or is there). Do some believe that a deterministic system must necessarily have a purpose and that from a Creator of the system? It is possible to imagine a computer program as an entirely deterministic system itself that generates deterministic algorithmic programs as sets that have no purpose, obviously.

Given a finite set of construction components there may be a necessity of a determined number of configurations of a system with an initial set. Someone mentioned constructing a square with just three lines. With three lines one may build a triangle in a certain configuration that when viewed seems like it is a square, without being one. With the alphabet one can’t construct hieroglyphs or build an automobile with raspberry jello.

Deterministic systems may certainly exist. The question people with antipathetic positions toward faith might have that they cannot exist is absurd. The effort is to deny that the entire Universe is pre-determined, and that it freely evolves without constraints or limits in it’s course of evolution. It does appear that at least parts of it’s fate is predetermined. Stars have a limited life span of several billion years more or less, the entire initial endowment of mass that is apparently finite will reduce with entropy to either a cold dead condition near absolute zero or be recollected with gravity to a singularity. In either case the temperature might have a phase change to absolute high temperature.

There may be an argument that a predetermined fate of the Universe is not known by humans yet that doesn’t make it so. The fate of the entire Universe is already set; nothing people or other sentient beings living in it can change that.

Of course some might regard the Higgs field entanglement of two-dimensional massless particles given the appearance of three dimensions occurring in space-time as indicative of an unlimited source of Universes and other structures that happen rather like a dream generated by a bubble maker, and those could be regarded as non-determined. Yet of course once they are brought into being they became determined with a set future. The phrase ‘the die is cast’ encapsulates the notion.

Free will may coexist within determinism. Life is a complex phenomenon physically and there is a vast degree of uncertainty regarding physics. It does seem plain that deterministic elements exist and that degrees of freedom exist while the entire Universe phenomenon may itself be determined since its foundation. One doesn’t have answers to the questions about the structure of the Universe or Multiverse that are exhaustive. Christians at least have faith in a Creator.

https://www.udio.com/songs/mTdMFKeB7j9DF8sgdGcdtr

If a program is written to generate whole numbers it is determined to produce while numbers; that is it will not generate the collected works of Shakespeare with annotations, loaves of bread or reasons not to elect Pamela Harris.

It seems wrong to use Norbert Weiner’s work as a strong advocate for necessary nondeterminism. A Google search asking if N.W. supported indeterminism generated this response; “While not definitively stating a belief in or against strict determinism, Norbert Wiener's ideas in cybernetics suggest a view that emphasized predictability within systems, leaning towards a deterministic framework for understanding complex systems like human brains and cultures, rather than strict, unfettered freedom”.

I appreciate the gulf in communication between word and object. The idea that ideas may not be expressed with deterministic exactitude since words are descriptions of observations an dare- approximate descriptions of experience. It is the purpose of words  that concern, and one is venturing into linguistic and analytic philosophical claiming that all knowledge is non-deterministic and physics is non-sense as well. It is a metaphysical inference to extrapolate from human epistemology to the nature and constructions of what humans experience. Utilizing analytic philosophy for the purpose of arguing pro or con determinism is at best a fraction of the right parameters required for inducting some sort of an accurate response to the challenges of the inquiry. Human epistemological uncertainty doesn't mean the Universe itself is nondeterministic. Perhaps one can say that humans may know that they know nothing after jettisoning pragmatism.  ‘What is wisdom to man is foolishness to God.’

Incompleteness theorems don’t equate to non-determinism for the given (Universe for-itself). Humans are elements of pluralism in a monism that IS.

That is the nature of the experience of what is regarded as an entangled field of two-dimensional massless particles that pick up a virtual third dimension in the field. It is the world people exist in though, so that contingent experience is assigned as being real. One need only be poor, freezing or starving, very sick etc to know that one need treat the world as reality.


22 January 2025

Teleology in Politics

Maybe teleological plans move human political movements toward fulfillment. One has Democrats and Republicans in conflict  Homosexuals divided the polity with their approach to marriage while Republicans opposed ecological conservation and restoration. Over population needed to be halted because of fine resources and the ecosphere was being devastated. Some moral people couldn't go along with Democrat planks though they supported environmentalism.

No politicians knew what ecological economics are though Jeffrey Sachs did. Democrats were for war with Russia over Ukraine even if that meant WW 3 might occur  Republicans were for drilling saying drill baby drill and burn baby burn to fossil fuels. Trump was for peace, Musk for ten billion robots and super AI and that would end the need for ponzinomics that increase human population to keep the workforce young enough to support the prior generation in old age. Super AI in robots smart enough to work in most labor jobs well could be a danger yet let human population drop to sustainable levels while the ecosphere recovers.

That's all fascinating and something to find the answer to in twenty or thirty years. The human political powers don't get what they want yet perhaps God does.