A comment made on one of my posts was; "Given the fact that many Muslim nations embody leftist ideology better than America". I think history supports the concept that Muslim nations have preponderantly been anti-communist besides being implicitly theocratic.
Consider the history of the tudeh (communist party) in Iran and Iraq; each were slaughtered after a fundamentalist (Khomeini revolution) or state socialist government (Iraq )took power. During the cold war many Muslim nations were on the side of the west in being anti-communist. Consider Afghanistan and Pakistan in the late Soviet era.
Yet with a history of being an arrested civilization fundamentally in opposition to western democratic traditions (as if much of the left today) contemporary Islam presents a huge challenge for the west to address and defend against.
A wikipedia article describes the history of the "Dar al-Harb (دار الحرب "house of war"; also referred to as dar al-Garb "house of the West", in some detail. The United States has virtually no history of substantial Muslim immigration. During the cold war we did not admit a lot of Russian communists, nor Japanese during the second world war, nor Eastern Europeans early in the 20th century when they were suspected of being anarchists. The U..S.A. has been able to keep its nation western and democratic because it has a history of defending it against potential adverse demographics. President Obama and the democrat party have worked to defeat that tradition. The U.S.A. has a history of defending itself against adverse ideology such as foreign theocracy and communism from taking over in the nation. Louis Farakhan's 'Nation of Islam' is a manifest reference to a theocratic ideal and entails the appearance of sedition.
Indonesia would be an excellent place to relocate Syrian refugees. then they could present potential security threats to Indonesia rather than the U.S.A. As the largest (demographically) nation in the world that is already Muslim Indonesia easily could absorb a million or two more Muslims without being a kernel of future terrorist growth and security costs.
I don't think that anyone would argue that Indonesia has better freedom of the press than the U.S.A. or that free speech is preponderantly better protected in Muslim nations than the U.S.A. One may view Muslim nations through rose colored glasses, yet they are also largely intolerant of even minority Muslim sects from Pakistan to Iran, Egypt to Saudi Arabia. Islam is a different society with a different history than that of the west, and has been so since its initial wars of expansion and attack upon Europe through Asia Minor, Iberia and Sicily.
One may be naive about the history of western democracy, yet keep in mind that American military aid to S.E. Asia during the cold war is a reason why certain political reforms gained some traction. The American left tend to have no concept of the social requirements for political and social organizations and how they relate to family structure. In fact the idea of cultural anthropology is alien to much of the left that would instead extrapolate American historical experience filtered through new age atheism and Darwinism upon every nation on Earth.
I do not mean to seem overly defensive of western values. It is just the case that I do not have a wish that the U.S.A. complicate its future and create a terrorist base for the next generation as well as trillions and trillions of debt.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Dar_al-Harb
Consider the history of the tudeh (communist party) in Iran and Iraq; each were slaughtered after a fundamentalist (Khomeini revolution) or state socialist government (Iraq )took power. During the cold war many Muslim nations were on the side of the west in being anti-communist. Consider Afghanistan and Pakistan in the late Soviet era.
Yet with a history of being an arrested civilization fundamentally in opposition to western democratic traditions (as if much of the left today) contemporary Islam presents a huge challenge for the west to address and defend against.
A wikipedia article describes the history of the "Dar al-Harb (دار الحرب "house of war"; also referred to as dar al-Garb "house of the West", in some detail. The United States has virtually no history of substantial Muslim immigration. During the cold war we did not admit a lot of Russian communists, nor Japanese during the second world war, nor Eastern Europeans early in the 20th century when they were suspected of being anarchists. The U..S.A. has been able to keep its nation western and democratic because it has a history of defending it against potential adverse demographics. President Obama and the democrat party have worked to defeat that tradition. The U.S.A. has a history of defending itself against adverse ideology such as foreign theocracy and communism from taking over in the nation. Louis Farakhan's 'Nation of Islam' is a manifest reference to a theocratic ideal and entails the appearance of sedition.
Indonesia would be an excellent place to relocate Syrian refugees. then they could present potential security threats to Indonesia rather than the U.S.A. As the largest (demographically) nation in the world that is already Muslim Indonesia easily could absorb a million or two more Muslims without being a kernel of future terrorist growth and security costs.
I don't think that anyone would argue that Indonesia has better freedom of the press than the U.S.A. or that free speech is preponderantly better protected in Muslim nations than the U.S.A. One may view Muslim nations through rose colored glasses, yet they are also largely intolerant of even minority Muslim sects from Pakistan to Iran, Egypt to Saudi Arabia. Islam is a different society with a different history than that of the west, and has been so since its initial wars of expansion and attack upon Europe through Asia Minor, Iberia and Sicily.
One may be naive about the history of western democracy, yet keep in mind that American military aid to S.E. Asia during the cold war is a reason why certain political reforms gained some traction. The American left tend to have no concept of the social requirements for political and social organizations and how they relate to family structure. In fact the idea of cultural anthropology is alien to much of the left that would instead extrapolate American historical experience filtered through new age atheism and Darwinism upon every nation on Earth.
I do not mean to seem overly defensive of western values. It is just the case that I do not have a wish that the U.S.A. complicate its future and create a terrorist base for the next generation as well as trillions and trillions of debt.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Dar_al-Harb
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