Dimensions; In Space or in Mass?

This is again just a philosophical note. Where dimensions exist-in empty space or within mass and energy is the subject.

For now my opinion is that dimensions exist within mass/energy in some way rather than in empty space.

There was or is a perennial philosophical question about where the center of space is. If space exists infinitely in all directions then every place is effectively the center. Yet there is another more modern opinion that space and time expand together from a very small compact point or possibly a larger membrane. In this sort of criterion space-time and its mass energy are a kind of substance that expand as a unified field into the pre-existing empty volume of space.

Thus there is space-time type X and empty space without time type Y. Spaces X and Y are different.

Modern cosmological theories consider space-time X and nearly entirely disregard empty space type Y, except that some theorists regard type Y as a perturbative vacuum in which virtual particles emergence and sometimes collective together under a primitive kind of gravity to form a singularity and then an expansive space-time universe of type X in a region of empty space type Y.

M-theory (Mystery string theory) has perhaps an infinite number of versions that might be able to describe the particular configurations of laws and force structures that comprise a Type X space-time inflationary universe. A popular theory has a ten dimensional bubble universe with three large dimensions and six small ones.

It is thought by some theorists that the number of dimensions of a Type X space-time and the configurations of the dimensions with varying numbers of large and small dimensions is effectively unlimited. If the number of dimensions of a Type X space-time inflationary bubble universe is variable and the Type Y empty space a dimensionless volume that receives the Type X space-time mass energy and dimensions it seems reasonable to assume that the quality of dimensions manifested to human observers must be an implicit characteristic of the mass-energy of space-time Type X.

One can talk about space-time as a real empty thing, yet it seems rather to be a relation amidst mass-energy. For instance the present distribution of average atoms in the space-time of the observable universe is just one atom per cubic meter (seven atoms per cubic meter is said to be the omega-big crunch level).

The spacing of atoms is not unlike the spacing of quanta at all levels in space-time, and so it is possible that the dimensions are behavorial characteristics of mass-energy as well as of their formation at various levels of comparative energy or power instead of in the empty space volume that hosts the expanding space-time Type X local universe.

You might think that I have recombined the spaces of Type X and Type Y here by using empty space Y to fill in the gaps between mass of Type X. Einstein's general theory makes that necessary because space is regarded as a malleable thing curved by gravity (at least for us non-scientists).

If dimensions are located within mass and form the simultaneous behavior of mass quanta in 3 large and six small dimensions-with only very small particles or waves formed in very small dimensions and only larger things like atoms and planets existing in three larger dimensions, and if the empty space just fills in the gaps or spacing of mass-energy flowing through appropriate dimensions then space does not need to curve or be anything besides completely empty.

If space is really absolutely nothing and mass-energy and its dimensions extrude into that nothing quantum uncertainty capable of letting some mass energy journey across the smallest dimensions or sub-dimensions of small dimensions would seem easier to account for. Quantum entanglement or faster than light conveyance of spin information of entangled particles is a result of waves at a similar sub-dimensional level emerge from an entangled state into a state in larger dimensions in the same condition.

In the larger dimensions they may be far apart, in the sub-dimensions they merely needed to journey across the nothing of Type Y space. With dimensions existing in mass-energy instead of a Type X space, the appearance of the curvature of space in a gravitational field can be considered explained better by describing the attraction of mass-energy in three dimensions as a phenomena derived from the quantum status of mass in the sub-dimensional protocol.

There are numerous ways of regarding the phenomenon of gravity in three dimensions in the criterion of dimensions existing in mass instead of in space. The same empty space of an eternal inflationary universe of Type X bubbles is supposed to host an infinitely variable number of dimensions. It seems more reasonable to suppose that Type Y empty space as nothingness can host an infinite number of dimensions of mass without changing its own character at all than to believe that Type Y empty space would itself change an infinite number of times locally as Type X inflationary space-time warps it into hyper dimensional pretzels.

It isn't known to most non-scientists that a 3 dimensional space is uniquely suitable for the formation and existence of mass that orbits such as that of atoms, planets and galaxies. One of Einstein's friends and teachers developed that idea.

With four or more large dimensions it would be not be possible to form the elements, with two dimensions they would never get off the surface of a sheet of paper-with extra smaller dimensions supporting three larger ones it seems to be o.k. for a Universe with mass in it such as this one.

It seems easier to believe that complex dimensions of mass in space-time Type X grow from a zero-dimensional empty-space of Type Y then that Type Y empty space has some sort of fixed, inflexible dimensional number within it. Type Y empty space probably hasn't got energy in it-not even virtual particles except as they intrude or remain from some non Type Y empty space source.

Rather than accepting the foggy notion that Type Y empty space generates virtual particle energy that is drawn together to form dimensional aggregations of mass-energy it is easier to believe that dimensional strings or one-dimensional energy monads from an unknown origin existing in Type Y empty space in unknown quantity (possibly infinite and dispersed across infinite Type Y empty space) are the source for more complex dimensional structures of mass-energy.

It is the origin, appearance and distribution of virtual particles in Type Y empty space that is of interest. One immediately resumes the sort of philosophical speculations that have been recorded since the pre-Socratic philosophers about volume of space, content of mass in space, and distibution of mass and space as finite and/or infinite.

In dimensionless empty space an influx of infinite one dimensional waves from God might stock Type Y empty space with infinite mass/energy potential. I guess that would be like a cosmological virgin birth hypothesis of mass-energy.

Would the wave oscillate unbound through 3 dimensions generating them as it goes around like an infinite circular irrigation sprinkler in a field?

There are a variety of conjectures possible regarding existentially transcendent energy interpolated into a zero-dimensional Type Y no-dimensional empty space capable of hosting infinite numbers of dimensions locally in concatenations added to infinite Type Y empty space.

The Eternal Recurrence in Cosmology

The Eternal Recurrence in Cosmology

J.D. Barrow writes in 'The Infinite Book' of the cosmological problem of the eternal recurrence. I have written about that perception of Nietzche before as have countless others. So here I learned something more on the topic from Barrow helpfully shedding light on the philosophical problem from a mathematical-physics basis in his book within a chapter named 'The Infinite Replication Paradox'.

I will write a few comments on the logic of infinite universes and permutations of life.

Barrow notes several historically important individuals that were scientists or philosophers that have contemplated the idea that if the Universe is infinite then anything that has a non-zero probability of occurring should recur infinitely in various permutations. Some have also argued that Christ would therefore need to be crucified infinitely in all of these permutations. Of course they fail to recognize the supervening nature of God as Jesus Christ in such a case (fully God and fully an simultaneously) and place Jesus within an Aryan heresy sort of context of a contingent nature...Jesus could appear just once, or wherever needed as God prefers.

Even the logic of an infinite universe having a necessity of producing an infinite variety of variations of all possible forms of life an infinite number of times is not compellingly convincing. God may decree it not to be so, yet even on a purely phenomenal, non-theistic basis just one Universe or being might logically negate the existence of all the others with an infinite replication of negation. An infinite universe might not have the capacity to have contradiction of transcendent scale within it universally. For instance, a universally blue universe could not simultaneously be a universally red universe of infinite size.

We might like to believe that one infinite universe of a monistic composition would not concurrently permit the existence of a different concurrent universe.

A universe infinite in time and monistic in character temporally would perhaps not produce randomly generated universal constitutions, but recurrent simple loop patterns as might one find in fractals, or quantum constructions as of electrons, quarks, strings or membranes.

The temporal extension of space and mass from finite local sources (even if from a pre-expansion membrane or field as Gasperini and Turok have described) may induce speculation that infinite varieties of universe generations replicating all possible variety of forms of being is an actualization of statistical probability provided that an infinite field fruitful for the infinite production of universes locally exists with standard, conformable rules permitting the infinite spatio and temporal issue of permutations of all possible forms of universal emanation. While such a universal standard macro-field support for the issuance of an infinite number and variety of universes may have a non-zero probability of being so, that probability also has a non-zero probability of encountering no other interfering boundary conditions that would apply to infinity-especially if and when intelligent life exists anywhere.

Certainly Satan has legendarily sought to hijack the Universe and all its possible forms from God. That contradiction of existence is a symbol of an infinite profusion of logical contradictions to the promulgation of an infinite number of universes being issued in a perfectly varied number and variety of forms.

It is also possible that the infinite universe is something like a container in which the will of God may actualize. It may have a consistent monistic appearance for one eon, and an infinite number of bubble universes in it the next.

It is not logically necessary that God be subject to the physical laws of the contingent created universes nor of a non-contingent field generating the content of universes. One may actually find a theological speculation I suppose about sentience, locality and the Universe that allows the creation of whatever it is that God wants to exist without use of implicit or evident finite spatio-temporal connectors to the Creator. The transfinite infinities of Cantor as examples can lead the way to infinities qualitatively transcended by other than spatio-temporal processes. If a new DVD is dropped in to the universe's infinity is that a bad thing?

Space; The Final Frontier

Can something that is finite ever become infinite? If finite mass was dropped into pre-existing infinite space could it potentially increase in area to occupy all of the infinite space? Might time originating at one moment become infinite and occupy all of time without travelling into the past before its own creation?

Reading 'The Infinite Book' can set one's cosmological ideas increasing over time-it's conceptual tools allow one to place what one has read of popular scientific cosmology into refreshed theoretical parameters. If an expanding universe is just a local bubble within a contracting metaverse or not we might be aware that empirical observations will likely tend to return local (the observable universe) results generating a basis for speculation about the infinity beyond.

The finite or the infinite frontier-Is there a finite or infinite number of? If the Universe expanded entirely from an initial small point and expanded into the visible universe 13.7 billion years ago then scientists can calculate calculate the amount of material that is in it, and it is probably a finite amount otherwise it ought to collapse under the influence of gravity.

Ideas about various topics of popular cosmology today; beyond that infinite amount of matter what exists-an infinity of nothingness(?)
are interesting to pursue.

A universe of infinite space with just a small, finite amount of mass in it that will spend its energy and fly off into an infinity of awaiting empty space. Bubbles of universes in infinite quantity filling infinite space lead one to wonder why any space should ever be empty, if the finite could ever increase to become the infinite, if time could ever be finite in one direction and infinite in another. Ideas exist that provide models for configurations of matter as finite or infinite and space as finite or infinite and of space as something besides plain nothing with each being in finite or infinite quantity can be generated in infinite numbers not unlike the transfinite sets of infinities of Georg Cantor.

What if this is a bubble universe with finite mass amidst an infinite quantity of other bubble universes with finite mass going on infinitely? Why is mass finite in all or even some of those bubble universes?

In on overall empty space one might guess that there should be some sort of formula describing the maximum quantity of infinite mass that can exist in proportion to infinite space without making all that distributed infinite mass collapse under gravity or some other force into an infinitely small singularity. In fact it is difficult to imagine some such perfect distribution of mass that could be temporally stable in an infinite configuration.

It is also natural to have a bias that the infinitely small concentration of mass would have a better logical situation than a finite quantity of mass distributed through space at an infinite distance apart. What forces could make for the perfect and equal spacing of all individual particle waves of matter at an infinite distance from other particle waves? Maybe the obvious answer is that infinite time and spacing of wave-particles would average everything out.

It seems that an infinite space with finite lived stars and mass aggregations would forever be depleting its aggregations of mass and ending up with virtually nothing over time. If mass is infinite one might think that it should occupy all space with infinite weight and density at all locations of the infinite space volume extending infinitely. With mass having a different, implicit quantum field dynamic of instability and temporality that would make it draw together or apart as an infinite spatially distributed fact coexistent with the infinity of space it is more challenging to imagine mass as a kind of emerald ocean that does not change and exists like a stable crystal lattice occupying all points of space without change eternally such that conjecture about mass occupying all of infinite space might be satisfied without the problems of bonding forces, string theory and so forth.

An infinite space filled with an infinite amount of matter might not need to have the infinite quantity of matter occupy the infinite space if the matter can change it's density distribution infinitely from the very small to infinitely apportioned. Yet even if mass by be inflated with an infinite velocity to occupy infinite space it is difficult to imagine that infinite mass once compacted to the infinitely small could ever again occupy all of infinite space even if accelerating with infinite speed. It is a little like thinking about Zeno's Eleatic paradoxes of the tortoise and the rabbit running at infinite speeds over infinite distances in increasing quantitative strides rather than the usual parameters of decrease.

Shapes of Potential Universes/'The Infinite Book'

re: Barrow's 2005 book 'The Infinite Book'

The nature of infinity as an idea has evolved over human intellectual history. Infinity is an idea useful in mathematical, philosophical, theological and actual inquiries into the construction of the Universe, and there are many different contexts in which it might be considered.

It is difficult to regard the topic of infinity and not mention the late 19th century mathematician Georg Cantor who did so much to make infinity a useful mathematical concept. In developing mathematical formalism that expressed infinity, varieties of types of infinities and how they relate to other kinds of infinities Cantor suffered much socially yet left lasting methods of classifying some of its forms.

Cosmology including study on potential shapes of the universe, of its limits as finite or infinite, of its many possible shapes and of the curvature of space, of our Universe as one inflated bubble of many-these sorts of things are integral with the topic of infinity and kinds of infinity.

Barrow goes over many of the researches of philosophers, scientists and theologians past and present that presented and developed concepts of infinity and cosmology. The book is a usefull addition to popular cosmology. Barrow is a mathematical astrophysicist and a fine popular philosopher of cosmology.

He wrote that the WMAP Wilkerson Digital Sky Survey of the microwave background provided a little evidence that some vibration-wavelengths from the early universe appear to have been cancelled out. I believe he mentioned that it is supportive of what could occur if the universe is of finite size yet unbounded as might be a cylinder or sphere or other finite space. The idea is that some of the returning waves would cancel out.

Space-time could still expand of course yet remain finite. Perhaps early black holes that slowed down the Universe after inflation evaporated over time such that without that drag the universe resumed expansion for some time. The cosmological constant isn't likely to be a perpetual motion force never running down.

With so many-perhaps an infinite number of potential if not actual configurations for the Universe to exist in beyond and transcending the edge of the visible Universe it is good to have some added ideas about infinity, of its nature and forms, and the ideas of others over history that have contemplated its potential and actual forms.

Does infinite nothingness exist beyond space-time? Is there a finite amount of mass in the universe and is the space in which it exists infinite? There are more than 1001 formulations and relationship configurations of matter, nothingness, space in regard to quantity and its logical relation to existence. Georg Cantor wrote about trans-finite sets of ever increasing infinities in math. Even with such concepts we run ashore like St. Augustine upon the conceptual nature of God transcending pluralism, time and dimension. An examination of infinities helps one appreciate that.

On the Mission of Jonah Bringing Prophesy to the Assyrians of Nineveh

It is easy to understand how the prophet Jonah would be recalcitrant about going to Nineveh to give the word of God to the Assyrians-people whose ancestors had destroyed Babylon and diverted the Euphrates River to flood the wreckage. A humble prophet might wish instead to be given a more secure post in the Torah-belt of Judah.

The symbolism of the book of Jonah seems to encapsulate the message that the prophet wandering off in recalcitrant digression from his mission to the Assyrian world was captured simultaneously by the immense alien political powers and the will of God journeying in the world before being transported to and regurgitated upon a beach and the road for Nineveh.

Jonah was affirmed as a prophet delivered by God to bring the word to surprisingly willing Ninevites enacting the orders pacifically. Though Jonah could not bring himself to directly let the Ninevite know that they had to change their ways, God could and did bring Jonah’s mission to fulfillment with on-time delivery of the prophet to convey the word.

Jonah completing his mission took rest outside town. A plant springs up providing shade; the word of God can produce quick growth evangelically when the time is right and shelter the prophet if necessary too.

We wonder if the way people of the ancient world used language was more developed toward illustrative analogies than discrete, impressionistic verb and noun morpheme pointillism or bureaucratese incomprehensible to many outside the loop.

In reading Jaroslav Pelikan’s book ‘Whose Bible is It’ that idea of Jonah’s symbolism develops naturally considering the insight that Jonah’s was one of the first missions of evangelization to the Non-Jewish world by a Jewish prophet. It has the plain sound of truth to it that ought not be troubling to those arguing about the capacity of a fish or whale to swallow a man That speculation, and the literal language meanings of the original Hebrew may miss the larger context in which the story is set of a lone prophet sent to bring the word of God to a warlike alien society in which he will be consumed by an unsympathetic crowd. God conserved Jonah’s life even through the inside of the socially immersive experience and the mission is concluded with what is to Jonah surprising ease. The most difficult part of Jonah’s mission was caused by his own lack of confidence or trust in himself and avoidance of potential risk in accomplishing the mission.

In avoiding walking directly with the Lord’s word into Nineveh Jonah ended up in the belly of the ‘great fish’ and was transported to the appointment at Nineveh to deliver the message.

Pelikan mentioned that the word ‘prophet’ is from a Greek compound of the word for ‘speaker’. A speaker bringing the authorized word of the Lord to a people ought not be reluctant to execute the work or lack faith and trust in God. That meaning may be the message we might take with us today reading the book of Jonah of the Tanakh’s Nevi’im.

Unenumerated Constitutional Rights and Gov. Retreat from Regulation of Perverse, Transformative Phenomenalities of Eudaemonism

Unenumerated Constitutional Rights and Gov. Retreat from Regulation of Perverse, Transformative Phenomenalities of Eudaemonism

“There is a concept which corrupts and upsets all others. I refer not to Evil, whose limited realm is that of ethics; I refer to the infinite.”-George Luis Borges

This isn’t an easy post to write up. In trying to enumerate several of the issues and conflicts raised by the corrupt choice of a few state’s courts and legislatures to create a new homosexual marriage or homo civil union status regulated by government…I have focused on developing the issues rather than selecting politically correct language-these issues are bizarre and implicitly corrupting of the social order and forced upon society by organized elites.

We know that when the constitution was written a vast frontier existed beyond the eastern cities. Eudaemonistic license was largely ungovernable beyond collective class actions such as the right to own slaves or not. Many protections of the law were not enumerated because it would have been in effect impossible for many of today’s intense urban culture issues to exist. One might thus argue in favor of virtually any unenumerated topic as a right one has because the founders were not creative futurists enough to ban it a priori.

The science fiction writer and U.S. Naval Academy alumni Robert Heinlein in his Lazurus Long character foresaw where all of these social sexual issues would lead over a few thousand years as genetics became the determining parameters for marriage. Incest was o.k. for Lazarus Long when genome screening could accurately build a model of the health of any progeny and/or genetically modify the zygote’s genetic components in optimal bio-design laboratories…Lazarus Long even has sexual relations with his twin, cloned, female selves as precocious youth.

Heinlein’s science fiction ideas did not consider many of the macro-social or evolutionary biological effects of avoidance of inbreeding through genetic modification through scientific intervention nor the moral and spiritual decay of the human spirit.

The M.I.T. economist Lester Thurow once wrote that radical changes were needed to transform the traditional and presently inefficient U.S. economic structures and social formations. I tend to regard the abolitionistion of marriage as a heterosexual establishment as advocates of a Boston biological new horizon vision of a world organically transformed more along the behaviorist lines of B.F. Skinner. Trimming down human society to fit on the finite yet unbounded Earth is something like using nitro-glycerin to remove the dandelions from your front lawn. It is better to educate and inform human society explicitly of the extreme empirical challenges brought by manifest limits to growth and expect their voluntary support in conforming to new temporal guidelines than to slip in a morphing and pervasive transformation of human biology existentially.

Anyone writing in advocacy of contentious political points traditionally has encountered the Mill-Industrial delete the opposition voice through financial sanctions phenomenon of course. Societies with true free expression have been and are few. The more exceptional or articulate a minority political opponents voice is to a powerful establishment the more readily may the lone voice in the wilderness be silenced. The Internet era is no exception wherein wealthy corporations may buy up webpages or bribe web page managers to control publication they host. The U.S. broadcast media was consolidated under a few corporate powers more than a decade ago-political opposition is still targeted when practical by the age old practice of silencing dissent.

It is easy enough for Americans today to be aware that a Pandora’s box of legal and economic changes will be added through the leavening of homosexual marriage adulteration of marriage tradition. It would have been far better if an unrelated tradition of a different sort unrelated to marriage were developed to guarantee equal protection of the laws to those seeking to appropriate the financial advantages of heterosexual marriages to non-heterosexuals in some sort of relationship.

The founders never imagined insane sexed homosexual marriage as a potential issue-neither did they foresee that any of the revolutionaries might want to marry a cougar, bear, buffalo or Waldo Emerson’s brothers.

While there are sane biological reasons why close relatives should not marry-those considerations do not apply beyond the heterosexual realm. Laws forbidding first cousins to marry were not created because familiarity breeds contempt and divorce rates would increase harming tax revenues to pay down the federal debt.

Those anti-inbreeding laws were made in recognition of the biological facts of life of increased risk of deformity in progeny. Obviously those restrictions do not exist for fags (means gaf backwards)-perhaps fag denotes a repulsive bonding rather than an attractive one as a statement of opinion about the practice.

Perhaps there will be legal challenges in the future to unequal protection of marriage laws that let homosexuals marry brothers, sisters and first cousins while heterosexual. In an intense social order with development of games theory political and financial power structures the advantage of closer legal social bonding formations may be significant throughout society inclusive of the corporate business environment.

Marriage is founded in a heterosexual paradigm that cannot be equally transferred directly with the same sort of symmetry to the anti-matter of homosexual marriage. The surplus of matter in the universe after the annihilation of matter and anti-matter at the start is thought a result of a slight advantage the different spin of matter has over anti-matter. The subtle differences matter.

The New York homosexual marriage law change may enable brothers to marry, for sisters and first cousins to marry-so long as they are not heterosexual there is no biological reason for the proscription. Annihilating the rational, biological criteria for marriage and transforming it into an existential foundation will support the unraveling of the human social order. The largest Moslem organization in Pakistan rightly described the Gay Pride festivities held in the U.S. Embassy in Pakistan recently as ‘cultural terrorism’. The consequences of that crass disregard for Pakistani culture will likely be remembered for 30 years-a choice a government without supreme global confidence in its military dominance would not make.

The Constitution never mentioned marriage as it wasn’t a controversial issue of the day, common law marriages were common enough and religious ceremonies were sufficient social processes to recognize marriage.

Our correspondent from the future-one of the few tourists to the past these days because of some sort of decrease in population ahead provided several ideas on changes marriage deregulation might bring…

With state regulation of marriage developing perhaps through the county seat needs for registration of land and property inheritance claims and other concerns about limiting the criteria of permissible marriages in order to prevent inbreeding and/or social imbecility (this failed with some politicians) civil marriages or civil unions evolved into fact. With the recent increasing corporate control of the broadcast media a perverse sect of homosexuals has sought with success to lever their way into recognition as married couples in order to get the financial and social benefits of sane sex heterosexual marriage with same sex homosexual marriage.

Rationally states would retire from the regulation of marriage rather than broaden marriage suffrage existentially, for an unenumerated rights parameters might be increased without finite limit when the financial and legal motivation to do so exists.

It is easy to understand that laws against corporate marriage, against polygamy, polygamy and misc group marriages and exotic other animate and inanimate marriages would exclude citizens from structuring their own unenumerated civil rights to their own satisfaction. If a man or women wants to marry the Brooklyn Bridge the state should give them equal rights to do so.

As deregulation of the nation’s financial industry has developed to increase the efficiency of concentrating the nation’s wealth and foreign control of mortgages and employment, deregulation of marriage will increase the securitization of marriage relationships, of time-sharing marriages, of leveraged marriage buy-outs and a range of socially innovative marriage relationships designed to increase the efficiency of marriage as a function of capitalism and free trade.

The Moslem world allows a prosperous man to have four wives, and of course rent-wives exist. It is not a great leap forward to envision the American Dream evolving deregulated rent-wife industries to reduce unemployment, compensate for the failure of chattel slavery to continue to exist in modern America therein depriving sadists the pleasure of subjects to torment, create a trickle-down effect lifting the poor to property-owning status and deregulate poverty from its capture compelled in the regulation of marriage as a heterosexual institution to raise families and protect women from arbitrary and capricious state exploitation, abuse by wandering minstrels and hordes of savage horny dudes on horses.

With the new leftist ideology of deregulation from oppression of state marriage laws, marriage commodities speculators may be able to provide best on-time deliver of sexual satisfaction service even aboard in-flight airlines collaterally reducing the cost of extra baggage and in-flight concessions.

Arranged marriages and short selling through divorce may free up marriage capital for investors to create new frontiers of bound social relationships that protect individuals with chains of obligation from the anarchy and totalitarian power of government claves.

Best of all, marriage deregulation will end financial apartheid preventing the rich from consummating unlimited acquisition of worldly wealth and let corporate marriage survivors pass on their hard-earned family property, stocks, and savings without taxation to surviving shareholders in sexless communal bonding and the next generation of nurturing, sharing and caring shareholders.

Is The DOW Jones Industrial Average Inefficient?

Many Americans are not investors in Wall Street stocks, yet news agencies report the daily numbers of the DOW as if it represented the health of the U.S. economy and of course it no longer does.

Stocks, may be inflated as over-valued bubbles, many of the corporations may do business in China, India, Nigeria or Brazil and the value of a corporate stock may be driven higher with news that it may be bought by another corporation; stock values may also be driven higher as corporate productivity increases by firing workers, outsourcing production and focusing on short term shareholder dividend profit and CEO bonuses instead-all actions such as cutting employee health and retirement packages that can lead to degradation of workers and worker standard of living.

News agencies should refine the Corporate reports with a new financial and insurance sector stock price report so the public can know daily of how the rest of the economy is being trimmed. The actual industrial corporations could be listed in foreign and domestic production facilities to better tie in their management profits and stock values to some relation to the U.S. economy.